Father as a man, the founder of the messengers of Labaz: “De Francisco remains with his tenderness, with his clean view that no one wants to look at.”

Canangels Garcia Rodriguez, known as Father Angel, is a good friend of Pope Francis. Both were from the same fifth (88 years), and they saw several times, first in Buenos Aires and then in the Vatican, and they shared the same appearance full of humanity towards the followers. The founder of the non -governmental organizations in La Paz, Father Angel, who is already in Rome to attend the funeral of the late Pope, is committed to the new Pope that does not deviate from the path that Francisco referred to, a path where the poor are not at the end of the road but Mark is all of his steps. “What is required is the Pope with a heart, it is not afraid that the shoes will be dirty,” says Astori’s priest in this interview.

-The Pope’s death was surprised after seeing him hours ago in Plaza de San Pedro? Can you talk to him in recent days?

-Yes, I was surprised. We knew he was sensitive, but his vision the day before, just a few hours ago … one of them was excited because we still accompanied us much more. In recent days, I did not talk to him directly, but I was very close to his trusted people. Although we did not give this last hug, he knew that we prayed and sent him “good feelings” at all times.

What remains Pope Francis? What is highlighting in your legacy?

-He stays with his tenderness, with his clean view that no one wants to look. Francisco has always seen more in the poor than need: he saw dignity. In one of the pilgrims with the people who have no shelter, he told me strongly: “They can be poor, but they should not lose dignity.” I also remember how he encouraged me when we open Saint Anton: “I want the House of God always open to the doors … Otherwise, the churches with closed doors should be called museums.” He dreamed of the church of the poor and the poor, as he said in Lisbon, for everyone, everything. He believed in a live church, in shoes, he said.

I knew it well, I think he will have many tales …

I remember with great affection when we made the pilgrimage to Rome with some people who have no shelter from Saint Anton and said: “Never forget that the poor do not make them lose their dignity.” You have already told me “They are the true treasure of the Church, they are the body of Christ.” The last story at the last meeting we conducted was that I expressed my interest because recently there were those who prayed because he left and told me: “The angel, do not worry, these people are sad people.”

Is Francis to miss when they looked and told the Pope, “But the angel, are you still alive?”

We miss her a lot, everyone. He was a father, a shepherd, a friend of those who tell you things with love. Behind the spirit of great humor, there was always that deep affection.

How should it be the new Pope? Do you have any preference? Which Spanish in their swimming pools?

-What is required is the Pope with a heart, it is not afraid that the shoes will dirty, as Francisco said. Listen, embrace, to cry with those who cry. I do not have a favorite passport. If it is Spanish, well. If it is from Africa, wonderful. It is true that you know that I have a citizen among the Cardinal Artemi, Astorian and Bonisian. But from jokes, I am sure that the person who comes sure will be good.

Do you think there are people inside the church when he knew the death of the Pope: “Finally”?

-Good, there are people who have finally thought, disturbed by another insurance. But the Pope is not political, he is a father. Francisco disturbed, correct, and this is a good sign, because it removed the structures, the plans were trembling. But he was loyal to the Gospel and Jesus Al -Nasiri, this is the important thing. He knew that someone had criticized him, but they never stopped doing things for love.

What do you think Francisco will now think, wherever it is?

-I imagined that he would reach heaven, take off his shoes, and told the Lord: “I did what I am. Sure, I was wrong several times, but I did my best, love. ”The Lord, with a big smile, will tell him:“ Hello, Jorge. I did well, a good and loyal servant.